OMG!!! O_O, THE 3-1jOBS Free in Renewal Sakray =D, yeah XD

was there a list of the fixed cast times skills already got?

and I fail to understand the reason why they took fury to a mere 50% sp recovery reduction

Spear quicken working with 1-handed spears bugs me more, now there's no reason to use any other kind of weapon.

Also, the sage ground element skills don't care what element you're using, you just get huge bonuses?

Anyone got some screen for Rune Knight et Archbishop ingame ?

... Cant wait for all complète 3-1 and 3-2 class xD

OMG finally 3rd clases on client! GREAT

Itll be about another.... 1:15 until the sprites (if the patch gets uploaded at midnight, korean time). If noone else does first, Ill upload them.

Nevermind, it's up.

Might as well do this:

Unofficial patch info:

2008-12-17BGM.rgz <--- BGM 129-132
2008-12-17aSakexe.rgz <-- New Client

2008-12-17sdata_k.gpf :
Alberta, Aldebaran, Geffen, Hugel, Izlude, Prontera, Prontera Church maps & Minimaps
All_wewish wav, icon
2 book text
desc, display, res updates
indoorsw, jobinheritlist, mapname, mp3name, questid2display, skilldesc & 2, skillname, skilltree updates

Perhaps later the sprites will be in.

Arch Bishop:




Rune Knight:




Rune Knight (Mounted):

Sprites are on kRO (data) or Sakray (sdata) ?

You can only get them with the Renewal Patcher afaik.

Heh, the female rune knight's animation is screwy when attacking.

Ohmygod, can somebody please upload the GPF file anywhere (other than filefront) please??

Christian, please, could you upload the GPF to mediafire or something like that? Thanks.

ftp://ragnarok1-gravity.ktics.co.kr/SakPatch/
user: ragadmin
pass: icsragadmin!@
That will solve all your problems

Thanks a LOT allex XD

Btw, I just noticed, why are the sprites so small compared to their heads?

which grf contains the new sprites?

3-1 jobs can be found in this GPF

ftp://ragnarok1-gravity.ktics.co.kr/Patch/
Patch file: 2008-12-17rdata_k.gpf

Patch file: 2008-12-17rdata_k2gpf
- Mounted RK

Patch file: 2008-12-17rdata_k3.gpf
- Skills and descriptions

hm... is it just me or when the Female Rune Knight attack, the head is a bit off from shoulder.... and the Female Arch bishop head is way bigger than the body....

Well, glad to see they're starting to implement the new job classes for over Christmas. Should be interesting to play around with the sprites.

Now the only question we have to keep under control is "when are the new jobs and skills being implemented into eAthena?"
Pretty cool though interested in seeing what kind of modifications have been made to the skills too.

I think, if the 3rd Classes will be released on February 2009 we will have the classes on eAthena.. July~August 2009 ?

@waaeyan

I'm crazy or I need a login and password to see this link:
ftp://ragnarok1-gravity.ktics.co.kr/Patch/

Depends on how many of the developers decide to work on the classes. Might only be one interested, or multiple. The more working on different classes, the faster they'll be implemented.

To be honest, i'd help with the implementation. I can't deny that i'd like to see the classes up and working, but then again, I understand that it's going to be quite a while before they're actually implemented. So it entirely depends on how many developers are interested in the implementation.

@TechnoCronus:

Username: ragadmin
Password: icsragadmin!@

Did anyone notice that in those .gpf files there are default WinXP "thumbs.db" files which are used by O.S. for Microsoft image preview? lol

EDIT: Looking at skillnametable, next classes coming up will be Ranger, Warlock and Guillotine Cross =P

EDIT2: Was implementing them on a local eA test server.
as far as see, ID for jobs should be:


and from jobinheritlist.txt, I see that these classes are repeated again for IDs 4060-4065, and 4072 is Dark Chaser.

since 4049 is Soul linker, 4050 Should be Jianshi (or whatever they called it), 4051 Death knight and 4052 Dark collector.
can someone confirm this?

also, anyone knows Rune Knight Mounted ID?

Finally english translations of the skills and descriptions...

Arch Bishop: HERE
Rune Knight: HERE

@Rikter

Ive looked into the files and did some research and got some intresting results. Here's all the info I typed up for those ID's, as well as some extra information that explains why they did all of this. Also, I have no idea on what ID the mounts use. Maybe its that unknown ID 4053???

The info below is straight from a ID Tracking Documnent I typed up today...

List Of Job ID's

Before reading, be sure to remember this at all times...

"The primary advantage of transcending first is that one is able to learn the transcended skills before turning to
the 3rd class, whereas changing immediately from base 2nd class would never be able to obtain them."
Information from Doddler's RO Future Website.

The format is as follow...
Job ID / Job Skill Mark / Job Name / Extra Info

4046 TK Taekwon
4047 SG Star Gladiator
4048 SG Star Gladiator (Union Mode)
4049 SL Soul Linker
4050 MB Gangsi
4051 DE Death Knight
4052 DA Dark Collector
4053 ?? ????? (Skiped and unused??? Why???)
4054 RK Rune Knight (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4055 WL Warlock (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4056 RA Ranger (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4057 AB Arch Bishop (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4058 NC Mechanic (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4059 GC Guillotine Cross(Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4060 RK Rune Knight (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4061 WL Warlock (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4062 RA Ranger (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4063 AB Arch Bishop (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4064 NC Mechanic (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4065 GC Guillotine Cross(Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4066 ?? ?????
4067 ?? ?????
4068 ?? ?????
4069 ?? ?????
4070 ?? ?????
4071 ?? ?????
4072 ?? Dark Chaser (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4073 ?? ?????
4074 ?? ?????
4075 ?? ?????
4076 ?? ?????
4077 ?? ?????
4078 ?? ?????
4079 ?? Dark Chaser (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4080

Extra Info 1: (Regular 2nd to 3rd) These are the ID's for if the player changes from a regular 2nd job to a 3rd job.
A example is a Knight changeing to a Rune Knight. These ID's will not have access to trans skills since the job
skill tree chains will skip the trans jobs trees.

Extra Info 2: (Trans 2nd to 3rd) These are the ID's for if the player changes from a trans 2nd job to a 3rd job.
A example is a Lord Knight changeing to a Rune Knight. These ID's will have full access to trans skills since
the job skill tree chains will link through the trans job trees.

This show's that their will be 2 different skill tree's for each job, one without trans skills and one with trans skills.
I think what they did was smart.

Note: For some reason, ID 4053 was skiped and wasnt used and the 3rd class ID's start at 4054. Why is this???

Note 2: The Job Skill Mark is the 2 letter mark at the beginning of the skill tags. They usually mark which job
orginally uses this skill. These letters helps us figure out which skills belong to which jobs. However, some past
skills can be accessed by more then 1 job.

This job ID tracking list was put together using the information found in the jobinheritlist file. I reorganized the ID's
to better show how the 2 different versions of each job was found. Below is the info from that file as of December 17, 2008.

Format
Job ID / Previous Job In Chain

// Regular 2nd to 3-1
4054#7#
4055#9#
4056#11#
4057#8#
4059#12#

// Trans 2nd to 3-1
4060#4008#
4061#4010#
4062#4012#
4063#4009#
4065#4013#

// Dark Chaser Regular and trans to 3-2
4072#17#
4079#4018#

I have a perty good idea on what jobs will use the ID's I left blank between 4066 to 4078.
Below is what I think they will be...

Unconfirmed and guessed ID's
Job ID / Job Skill Mark / Job Name / Extra Info

4066 ?? Royal Guard (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4067 ?? Sorcerer (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4068 ?? Minstrel (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4069 ?? Wanderer (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4070 ?? Shura (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4071 ?? Generic (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4072 ?? Dark Chaser (Regular 2nd to 3rd)
4073 ?? Royal Guard (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4074 ?? Sorcerer (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4075 ?? Minstrel (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4076 ?? Wanderer (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4077 ?? Shura (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4078 ?? Generic (Trans 2nd to 3rd)
4079 ?? Dark Chaser (Trans 2nd to 3rd)

So does this mean you could work on all 3-1 jobs atm? Or just rune knight or ArcBishop?

Mainly Rune Knight and Arch Bishop can be added for their sprite to show and be playable, just wont have any skills or any supported equiptable equips. The others wont right now. Tho while waiting for the others to be added in the future, we can start adding support for all the future jobs since we know the ID's for the jobs right now (half of them at least), that way once those jobs are released, well allready have the ID's and masks programed in the server and will hopefully bealbe to change to those jobs and have the sprite show.

As for skills, im makeing place holders for them, but im not able to assign them ID's since I have no idea what ID's the skills are using. Their was a tool that one of the XRay developers made that ripped the ID's into table files and save them in TXT files, but sadly the program is sooooooo old and out of date that it doesent work anymore. Hopefully someone can figure them out and post them so I can start typeing them into the skill data base, as well as the skill trees and whatever else needed.

Awesome news. I bet they will release the other four jobs in 1-2 weeks on wednesday? I mean, they could put 2 each wednesday for 2 weeks.

I confirm this, Tested Yesterday.
I made several Tests, while talking with LimitLine too.
I forgot to update my post 'cause it was like...way past midnight, so I went to sleep XD
I completely agree with everything you said, also thanks for sharing your infos.

About adding other jobs, they works, but they use a temp sprite, like Guilltoine Cross -> Assassin Cross, Etc..
also, I tested Mounted Rune Knight with 4053, and it doesn't work.
I tested it adding both 4053 and 4054 Riding skill in their Skill trees, changed sourcecode so Riding would recognize Rune Knight as job and point to it's mounted version, but failed: It shows novice sprites with 1_ETC_1 Jobname, so yeah, Probably that ID has been skipped, even if I my though is that they initially reserved that ID for an "alternative" form of Dark Collector [See skill Reincarnation]

About skills, I've been trying several IDs. I wasn't able to find the right ones.
I really hope someone will be able to find them, along with Mounted Rune Knight ID.
I mean...we could just use XRay to add them and see them, but I'm actually aiming to a proper implementation so they'll fit with eA implementation when it will happen :\

Rytech, we must talk on msn anyway =P

@Rikter

Thanks for the confirm, I can now update my ID tracking tables. Good to know they have working temporary sprites. Yea im stomped about the missing mount ID's. Chances they will be the ID's after 4079, even tho those show nothing right now. How many mount ID's there will be is kinda known in guessing right now as we talked about.

As you said, 2 different versions of the Rune Knight means their will be 2 different Rune Knight Mount ID's. This will probely apply for Royal Guards, which will probely also get dragon mounts or something else, as well as Rangers with their wolf mounts, and Mechanics with their battle armor mounts. So thats 8 mount ID's so far and 8 more skill trees for me to type. Good thing I can mainly copy and paste the whole thing.

I retyped the Jobchange command information that in the help file for eA server to make it more organized and also added all the latest jobs to it so itl be easier to know what ID's to type. If you need a copy ill be happy to send it to you. I also added the lines needed into the monstorsity_tab file for XRay clients. I wonder...do I have to add something to the class_tab file as well??? Once I find out the ID's for the new skill ill type those into the ability_player_tab.

*UPDATE*

Since we confirmed ID's 4054 to 4079, we have no idea what ID's the mounts are, and ID 4053 is nothing right now and for sure wouldnt be a mount since theirs going to be a bunch of ID's needed (At least 8 right now) for mounts. So ive once again made a guess and added some ID's to my table that will probely become mount ID's soon.

4080 ?? ?????
4081 ?? ?????
4082 ?? ?????
4083 ?? ?????
4084 ?? ?????
4085 ?? ?????
4086 ?? ?????
4087 ?? ?????
4088 ?? ?????
4089 ?? ?????

Incredible news...period. I am also wondering for the future.....seeing as OFFICIALLY RO can go beyond lvl 99, I wonder how that will integrate itself into eA's private server exp tables or if they'll have to be modified (which is probably going to happen anyway considering the entire revamp RO will get). Food for thought I guess lol.

How to add in these job in server files?

The best you can really do for now is probably just replacing previous sprite files. The jobs, their skills and their equipment bitmasks aren't implemented, so for now all we have are the sprites and the skill name/description files that go along with them.

holy flip, those skills are so overpowering >o<!

I dun understand what you are going to tell me... just make the guide so easy /heh

he said thet for now you cant implement them anywhere, you can just wait

Umm, if you look in the latest Xmas patches, it does appear they're using Usako's Christmas Prontera Edit. o.O The mini-map appears to have all the same changes as her maps contain..

http://www.serenityro.com/imgs/prontera.bmp

Maybe it's just me, but it looks very, very, VERY similar. I haven't checked the gat/rsw/gnd files yet.. but yeah. Wow if it's a rip off of Usako's.

Also, further looking into the gpf files, it appears there's a new skill called all_wewish, along with a .wav file that plays "We Wish You A Merry Christmas". News on releasing this in eAthena in time for the holidays? :3

And, if you really want to see Arch Bishop/Rune Knight skins, rename the spr/act files with High Priest/Lord Knight names in your sprite folder in your data.

If anyone wants to see the sprites in action, just go to Doddlers Ro Future Wiki. Its enough to hold you down until their added in.

This has already been brought up in this forum, check Usako's post.



Possibly, but then remember, we can assume that Gravity intends to increase the maximum level, HP and other factors of each other class; especially the 3rd classes. So in the end, we might find that the new classes balance themselves out. For now we just have to wait and see what other changes they're going to be making to the pre-existing stat calculation functions and the skills for the new classes.

The models (xmas trees, xmas signs, etc) were ALL by gravity. The only thing I did was add snow textures to the maps. I did nothing with the map files themselves. :x

I have not checked kRO...but as far as I know they do not have my textures. FrenchRO, on the other hand, does.

EDIT: Checked, kRO does not use my textures, and therefor, is not ripping anyone off (except those sprites they added that were in pRO that were stolen :x And probably other sprites and stuff from fRO later on).

Hope someone make it faster =,=" i has been waiting for 1 years /sigh

I would give up then, because seriously people, do you think 3rd classes will REALY be done in 3 months or something? Considering the actual circunstances I'd say at least on October 2009, and I still doubt it. Oh well, as people were saying it really depends on how many devs are actually willing to turn to work on them, and I'm afraid there won't be that much, but if the demand is really high, why not? But I really wouldn't wait for 3rd classes on eA anytime soon.

Now kro already release... so we wait for ea release only /heh

Still, it isn't even in the half of the half of the full release.

Hello folks, been a while since I last posted here/contributed to eA. I have taken a look at the latest releases from kRO and I must say, we do have a lot of work to do xD

Rytech et. al, I am currently working on an implementation (for the server I work for, essenceRO) of the Rune Knight and Arch Bishop classes. I have successfully added both of them and usable with an xRay client (but I suppose it should work once we have a suitable hexed kRO client). Skills are lacking of course, since we still don't know what skill numbers they belong to.

However, from cross-referencing xRay rips and info already in eAthena, the skill ID's between 544 and 652 are all Jianshi/Dark Collector/Death Knight skills, s o most likely the 3rd class skills will start from the 700s and onwards.

I'm currently working on getting skills in game, as I currently have rune knights/arch bishops somewhat playable. They can equip knight/priest equips and such, and currently have LK/HP stats xD. Your info on class IDs is very helpful, and likewise I am also confused as to the location of the mounted Rune Knight ID. There's simply no space allocated for both versions (2nd ->3rd and trans->3rd)!

Its probably fairly easy to overlook that Rune Knight and Arch Bishop are balanced to renewal mechanics. An accurate implementation wouldn't be possible without them.

Yea I spent a entire day working on adding them in. Me and Rikter are working on the adding of the new jobs as we speek. Ive spent a entire day working on the database entrys, organizeing, and prepareing things.

I found the mount ID's in the client for Rune Knights and Royal Guards and theirs 2 versions for each which took a few hours to find and we tested and confirmed them for 2nd to 3rd and the trans to 3rd. I also found the ID's for the skills minutes before I went to bed.....and your not goina believe where the ID's start. I wont be releaseing anymore info for now due to certain reasons right now.

Right now im putting together a team that will be working on the adding of the 3rd class. Once I get a team, well name the project, find a spot to do and share our work, and start working on the addin's. Just to let everyone know, you must remember a few things about eA, this project, and whats going on the official server.

eAthena is a program that emulates the official kRO server. Currently kRO uses the old mechanics and so does eAthena. The 3rd class jobs are being developed on the renewal server and will be ballanced for use with the new mechanics when they add them in. Because eAthena uses the old mechanics, the developers will not bother trying to add them in because it will defeat the purpose of trying to make the program as close to official kRO emulation status. If added in, eAthena will not be around official anymore.

Also, the developers are very busy working on other things, like the quest system, adding core features, fixing many many bugs, maybe adding TXT support for some of the features that currently only have SQL support, maybe a improved map cache to be more effective with the new map cell engine like ultramage wanted to do (if I read correctly in the notes). The eA developers have a lot of work ahead of them and the last thing they need is getting spammed with thousands of posts and messages asking "When are the 3rd jobs going to be added?", "Will they be in within 2 or 3 months?", "Why are you ignoreing me?".

Finally, SOME of the data, not all of it, for Rune Knight and Arch Bishop was released and very little data for the other jobs exists right now. So right now its impossiable to fully add any of the jobs in. Also we have to remember that as their added into the renewal server they will be ballanceing them out and adjusting the effects for all their skills. So things can change at any time.

Now here's whats going to happen. My team will be working on the adding of the 3rd classes little by little as we collect info about them. Right now im working with the data I currently have and am typeing up the lines bit by bit and researching the data looking for answers. Each team member will be working in a certain area of the project at their own paste and will not rush through their work. Remember, things like this arnt finished over night, so just wait until their finished. We dont want to release incomplete data, players start playing them, and then later we make a update and they notice something different and message us with "Something is broken, the skill no longer does this or its weaker, or doesent work like it did in the past." messages.

Well be posting screenshots and video's of our progress along the way to keep the community updated. When the progress on a job is mostly complete and it passes the developer's field tests, well release the data for that job for the community to mess with and test and hopefully well get some feedback if anything goes wrong with them. When all the jobs are completed and passes the field tests and the community finds them bug free, well start work on the final phase which will be balanceing all the classes around the old mechanics. This part will probely be the hardest task and will take some time. But with enough feedback, well beable to do this with no problem.

And now, Rikter's first screenshot on the progress...


He didnt feel like posting it and told me I could post it. So here it is. Whats going on here is Rikter is testing out the ID for the Rune Knight Mount. Currently its only showing in the equip window, but his actural charactor is by himself without a mount. Im guessing the programing for the mount to show isnt in the client right now and will be added later.

Im currently looking for people to join the team. If anyone is intrested, send me a PM and well talk.

wah... good ler.. hope you faster make it